Why is Harry Carson in the HOF?

bachslunch
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Re: Why is Harry Carson in the HOF?

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Joe, question for you. If Carson doesn't belong in the HoF, who is better from this time? For me, one MLB/ILB over a 20 year period (Singletary) is too thin representation at the position. Am thinking three other players is the least one should enshrine, so who should it be? I'm okay with Carson in, though he strikes me as a big hall type.
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Re: Why is Harry Carson in the HOF?

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Gradishar started out as a MLB, then shifted to the side and also only played 10 seasons. Still, he made the Pro Bowl seven times and was AP Defensive Player of the Year in 1978.

Bill Bergey has never really gotten any (or much) support.
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Re: Why is Harry Carson in the HOF?

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BD Sullivan wrote:Gradishar started out as a MLB, then shifted to the side and also only played 10 seasons. Still, he made the Pro Bowl seven times and was AP Defensive Player of the Year in 1978.

Bill Bergey has never really gotten any (or much) support.
Bergey played all but one season during the 70s. Gradishar played 4 seasons in the 80s, which may or not make him an 80s ILB.
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Re: Why is Harry Carson in the HOF?

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Personally, I think he belongs in Canton.

I concur about his incessant bitching about not making the HOF was irritating, but his accolades speak highly, IMO.

I don't understand why Carson is in and not Gradishar, though.
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Re: Why is Harry Carson in the HOF?

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Versatile John wrote:Personally, I think he belongs in Canton.

I concur about his incessant bitching about not making the HOF was irritating, but his accolades speak highly, IMO.

I don't understand why Carson is in and not Gradishar, though.
I'm still trying to figure out how Carson is in and Joe Klecko and Winston Hill are not (understand, different positions and all).

No disrespect to Harry. He was a solid linebacker but yes, benefitted from LT's otherworldly talent. I guess a good comparison (for you hockey fans here) would be Lafleur/Shutt.
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Re: Why is Harry Carson in the HOF?

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sheajets wrote:
Versatile John wrote:Personally, I think he belongs in Canton.

I concur about his incessant bitching about not making the HOF was irritating, but his accolades speak highly, IMO.

I don't understand why Carson is in and not Gradishar, though.
I'm still trying to figure out how Carson is in and Joe Klecko and Winston Hill are not (understand, different positions and all).

No disrespect to Harry. He was a solid linebacker but yes, benefitted from LT's otherworldly talent. I guess a good comparison (for you hockey fans here) would be Lafleur/Shutt.
You haver to remember that Carson made two Pro Bowls before Taylor arrived. Of course, he had 5-time Pro Bowler Brad Van Pelt at LOLB as well as fellow ILB Brian Kelley (very underrated).
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