Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Re: Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Postby Brian wolf » Wed May 05, 2021 2:39 am

At least Eric Kramer took the Lions to an NFC Championship game but I would still take McMahon's NFC and SB wins against the Rams and Patriots over anything Stafford has ever done. If Charles Martin for GB doesnt throw Jimmy Mac down on his shoulder like a rag doll, do the Bears win another championship ?
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Re: Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Postby racepug » Wed May 05, 2021 3:44 pm

JohnH19 wrote:The Bears QB history since Luckman retired is the worst in the NFC North and probably in the whole league.
It's pretty bad - there's no question about that. But I do lots of research (though probably not as much as many of YOU do - ;) ) on teams in order to keep up on all the franchises' players from all time (in order to keep the rosters "fresh" and "up-to-date" for a Greatest Players of All Time season that I run using an old - but very good! - football simulation) and I can think of one team whose overall QB history is even more dismal, in my opinion, than that of the Bears, Lions, or Browns. Any guesses?
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Re: Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Postby Brian wolf » Wed May 05, 2021 4:23 pm

Has to be the Texans ... Even Denver had better QBs
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Re: Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Postby Brian wolf » Wed May 05, 2021 4:35 pm

Nope ... Steelers
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Re: Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Postby Brian wolf » Wed May 05, 2021 4:40 pm

The Browns QBs have only been bad since 1993
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Re: Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Postby GameBeforeTheMoney » Wed May 05, 2021 6:50 pm

Yeah, Browns have had pretty good quarterbacks -- first two that popped in my mind were Frank Ryan and Brian Sipe....then there was Kosar as well....

I agree with whoever said they may have given up on Trubisky too early....

And thanks to the person who mentioned Wade Wilson -- underrated quarterback....

Maybe I didn't remember Vince Evans as well as some other people did....I remember he almost beat the Cowboys in Dallas and only a classic Staubach rally won it for them. And the time he beat the Packers 61-7...those are my main memories of him...
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Re: Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Postby racepug » Wed May 05, 2021 10:19 pm

JohnH19 wrote:It's Stafford who gives the Lions sorry bunch the edge on the Bears.
From what I've been able to tell Matthew Stafford has been a good, solid N.F.L. quarterback, but I would hardly consider him to be a "star." He's decent - he's probably one of the best QBs that the Lions have ever had outside of Bobby Layne - not that that's saying much.
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Re: Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Postby JuggernautJ » Thu May 06, 2021 3:15 am

racepug wrote:
JohnH19 wrote:It's Stafford who gives the Lions sorry bunch the edge on the Bears.
From what I've been able to tell Matthew Stafford has been a good, solid N.F.L. quarterback, but I would hardly consider him to be a "star." He's decent - he's probably one of the best QBs that the Lions have ever had outside of Bobby Layne - not that that's saying much.


While he probably didn't have his best years with the Lions, Tobin Rote did lead them to a Championship... (and he won one in the AFL with the Chargers, too).
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... teTo00.htm
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Re: Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Postby GameBeforeTheMoney » Thu May 06, 2021 9:54 am

JuggernautJ wrote:
racepug wrote:
JohnH19 wrote:It's Stafford who gives the Lions sorry bunch the edge on the Bears.
From what I've been able to tell Matthew Stafford has been a good, solid N.F.L. quarterback, but I would hardly consider him to be a "star." He's decent - he's probably one of the best QBs that the Lions have ever had outside of Bobby Layne - not that that's saying much.


While he probably didn't have his best years with the Lions, Tobin Rote did lead them to a Championship... (and he won one in the AFL with the Chargers, too).
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... teTo00.htm


He did lead the Lions to the 57 Championship. He started the playoff vs SF and the championship game after Bobby Layne was injured late in the season. He's a bit like Jeff Hostetler in that regard.

If I remember right, he's the only QB to win both the NFL and AFL championship.
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Re: Chicago Bears Quarterbacks

Postby RyanChristiansen » Thu May 06, 2021 12:55 pm

JohnH19 wrote: After Tarkenton the Vikings have received solid to excellent quarterbacking from Tommy Kramer, Wade Wilson, Rich Gannon, Moon, Brad Johnson, Cunningham, Jeff George, Culpepper, Favre and Cousins. Even Case Keenum gave them an excellent season.


=Here's a chart showing the success of first-year starting quarterbacks in Minnesota. The red bars show quarterbacks who were 35 or older when they first started for Minnesota.*

*Brad Johnson returned to the Vikings after playing for them earlier in his career.

(During a 15-year span, five of the nine new starting quarterbacks for the Vikings were age 35 or older, with decent success.)

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