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by JohnTurney
Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:26 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1994 Cleveland Browns discussion
Replies: 5
Views: 5301

Re: 1994 Cleveland Browns discussion

MD Perry got a little disgruntled but he still made big plays. Watching old games of them, just what you'd expect, grinders on offense. Gamemanager Qbs Testaverde wasn't that good that year. He really didn't turn it around until he joined forces with Marchibroda in Baltimore. As for Perry, him and ...
by JohnTurney
Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:15 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: 1994 Cleveland Browns discussion
Replies: 5
Views: 5301

Re: 1994 Cleveland Browns discussion

T The following off-season, the Browns were picked by some to make SBXXX. But obviously not to be... Thoughts? Good team, with good special teams -- good disciplined defense, When Belichick got there he fit the personnel --- used a 4-3, but still had some two-gap principles ... brought in vets who ...
by JohnTurney
Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:10 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: More fodder. . .
Replies: 24
Views: 20906

Re: More fodder. . .

There is going to come a point where all these rules they are putting in place to keep players from getting injured are going to blow up in their face and fans as a whole will begin to demand that more hitting gets put back into the game again. I really do think one of the main reasons why the tv r...
by JohnTurney
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:51 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Jason Kelce
Replies: 10
Views: 15047

Re: Jason Kelce

sluggermatt15 wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:36 pm First ballot or not I could care less. Kelce will be in Canton.
Aaron Donald retiring could hurt his first-ballot chances -- but also, with Donald's 8 AP and Kelce close, you can look at it that way -- -the comparison could help ...

will be interesting to see for the Class of 2029
by JohnTurney
Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:46 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Eye Test for Two revelation
Replies: 16
Views: 8965

Re: Eye Test for Two revelation

Looking forward to seeing who those 1920s MVPs are. It makes for fun reading. Also the many chapters has evaluations plus a mini-bio. There ate lots of great authors on that era, Mickey Herskowitz, Richard Whittingham, John Maxymuk, Jim Campbell, Bob Gill, Ken Crippen, T.J. Troup, Dan Daley and man...
by JohnTurney
Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:34 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Eye Test for Two revelation
Replies: 16
Views: 8965

Re: Eye Test for Two revelation

what Chris Willis has posted Speaking of Chirs Willis his new book is released tomorrow ... an can be ordered now -- "The NFL's 60-Minute Men: All-Time Greats of the Two-Way Player Era, 1920-1945," I like it a lot ... covera the top players of that era and he gives his rankings and opinio...
by JohnTurney
Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:56 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Eye Test for Two revelation
Replies: 16
Views: 8965

Re: Eye Test for Two revelation

Honestly, Slater wasn't a slam dunk to me for HOF, for HOVG, sure - great choice. But he isn't mentioned in this article for example: https://profootballresearchers.com/archives/Website_Files/Coffin_Corner/07-05-233.pdf . Dilweg, Emerson, Lewellen and Wistert were my top choices among the finalists...
by JohnTurney
Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:46 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Eye Test for Two revelation
Replies: 16
Views: 8965

Re: Eye Test for Two revelation

Your not going to believe what I found out On Episode 93 of the Eye Test for Two Bill Polian says he Bill Belichick Ozzie Newsome and Ron Wolf all members of the Blue Ribbon Panel that elected the Centennial Class stupidest film of the pre 60s players and rated theme and concluded that all the play...
by JohnTurney
Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:39 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Jason Kelce
Replies: 10
Views: 15047

Re: Jason Kelce

of the ones you have listed in yellow john how many of them have legit hof cases Honestly don't know. I think "cases" is on thing. "Legit cases?" maybe only Kelce ... the way things have gone. Seems like 2-3 All-Pros even with a lot of Pro Bowls doesn't get you there -- to Canton.
by JohnTurney
Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:23 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Fletcher Cox, just the numbers
Replies: 1
Views: 1578

Fletcher Cox, just the numbers

no grades, pressures, double teams, "eye-test" someone asked about HOF --- Kevin Williams cannot get any notice ... IMO, throwing in eye test, Cox was better than some of these guys ... a couple of them were 3-techs for the most part. Cox and Suh and Williams were more than just rushers/pe...