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by Brian wolf
Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:41 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Worst player in HOVG? Best player not in?
Replies: 62
Views: 109001

Re: Worst player in HOVG? Best player not in?

I understand what Isbell could bring to the table as a thrower and the possibilities of a passing offense. Herber could throw as well but not as good as Cecil. I just believe he didnt play long enough. If he is based on three great seasons, why not other players like Latone, Sims, Andrews, Warren We...
by Brian wolf
Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:36 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Clark Shaughnessy
Replies: 25
Views: 75712

Re: Clark Shaughnessy

Look, we all know that Jim Brown was a great player, especially with his speed and size. I also believe Gilchrist was great as well. More power than speed but a far superior blocker than Brown. I wont say he is better, though Cookie could kick and play linebacker as well but had Paul Brown kept him,...
by Brian wolf
Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:25 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Bill Fralic - HOVG?
Replies: 8
Views: 24585

Re: Bill Fralic - HOVG?

When I watched Fralic, he reminded me of former Cardinal, Bob Young, who was very strong and powerful but didnt get enough accolades. Everytime I watched Young, he manhandled people. Played well against Randy White too ...
by Brian wolf
Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:11 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Worst player in HOVG? Best player not in?
Replies: 62
Views: 109001

Re: Worst player in HOVG? Best player not in?

I was wrong. I am sure there is a player out there who hasnt made the HOVG, thats better than Simms and I have to find him but Simms was who I was thinking of, in terms of a QB.
I might have sounded a little harsh on Little but just saw that OJ Anderson made this years, list ...
by Brian wolf
Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:57 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: HOVG QBs - 1940s thru 1960s
Replies: 6
Views: 18046

Re: HOVG QBs - 1940s thru 1960s

Great list Matt ...

Though it's tough on Plum and Meredith. They could beat the bad teams but had trouble with the good teams and Meredith, like Danny White, later for the Cowboys, was snakebit. I sure like that Meredith throwback jersey from Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, though.
by Brian wolf
Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:46 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Roethlisberger for the HOF?
Replies: 62
Views: 102745

Re: Roethlisberger for the HOF?

Thanks John ... Eli may get in but he regressed so bad, it should take him awhile. If he gets in, the noise for Plunkett and Simms will get considerably louder, much less Tommy Thompson who won two out of three championships. I believe Charlie Conerly should also be in the HOF but thats a post for a...
by Brian wolf
Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:39 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Roethlisberger for the HOF?
Replies: 62
Views: 102745

Re: Roethlisberger for the HOF?

Haha ... I will admit, I love stirring the pot and love good debate. I wasnt trying to downplay Griese from the other post as much as boost an underrated Thompson, who played with one eye ! I think Griese was as graceful and smooth a QB, whether passing, scrambling or doing ball handling, as I have ...
by Brian wolf
Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:27 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Good riddance
Replies: 13
Views: 26862

Re: Good riddance

I felt the Titans were better than their 99 team in 2000 but the Ravens defense peaked at the right time. A defensive slugfest playoff game, that we will probably never see again, with todays basketball scores. The Ravens got lucky that Siragusa belly flopped onto a Gannon injury that enabled them t...
by Brian wolf
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:37 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Worst player in HOVG? Best player not in?
Replies: 62
Views: 109001

Re: Worst player in HOVG? Best player not in?

The best one not in is Phil Simms.
by Brian wolf
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:35 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Worst player in HOVG? Best player not in?
Replies: 62
Views: 109001

Re: Worst player in HOVG? Best player not in?

For me, its Cecil Isbell or Floyd Little ...

I would take a winner like Kemp over Isbell, who only had three good seasons. Hutson would make any thrower look good. Little is good but better than other backs not in the HOVG ? I dont think so, but its all subjective.