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- Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:17 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: HOVG?? No, its the HOI!!!
- Replies: 10
- Views: 16323
Re: HOVG?? No, its the HOI!!!
Interesting idea. I'll add some guys too, apologies for being QB heavy. Spec Sanders - obviously, everything about his career was interesting Tex Hamer - likely first ever 1000 yard rusher Charlie Mathys - 1st "wide receiver"? Charley Rogers - only player to lead NFL in rushing and receiv...
- Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:17 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: Lionel Taylor
- Replies: 6
- Views: 11037
Re: Lionel Taylor
Taylor is a player who not only needs to be in the HOVG, I wouldn't hate him making the HOF. Powell and Hennigan should get in first, though.
Jim Nance is another one I'd add to Brian's list, and I think he isn't in the HOVG either.
Jim Nance is another one I'd add to Brian's list, and I think he isn't in the HOVG either.
- Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:14 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: When Did the NFL Change?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 17314
Re: When Did the NFL Change?
I grew up in the 2000s and still consider that to be when the NFL came closest to an ideal equilibrium, barring a few too many rushing TDs. The enormous passing seasons happened, but were rare enough that they actually felt special and important. But most years, Peyton led the league with passing nu...
- Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:59 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: 1932
- Replies: 10
- Views: 13801
1932
So I've come across a problem in some of the research I'm doing that I couldn't have foreseen. PFR considers 1932 to be the first officially statted NFL season, whereas David Neft considers it the last unofficial season, and I have no idea who's right. Normally, I would just assume Neft accidentally...
- Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:42 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Damon Allen vs. Marcus Allen
- Replies: 50
- Views: 54854
Re: Damon Allen vs. Marcus Allen
How could you forget Doug Williams?Before 1984, in the Super Bowl Era, Vince Evans (32 starts, 1977-1983) and James Harris (41 starts, 1969-1979) were the only black NFL quarterbacks who had spent much time under center
- Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:08 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Rookie QBs: what's the problem?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 15611
Re: Rookie QBs: what's the problem?
Update on the situation: Lawrence, Wilson, Fields, and Mills remain some of the worst starting QBs in the league stretching across the last several years, while Lance has yet to get an extended look, and Jones is locked in a dead heat with Chase for OROY with the Pats looking like a top 3 team in th...
- Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:33 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
- Replies: 26
- Views: 34003
Re: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
But are you really going to say players have to carry teams on their back to be PFHOF worthy? I'm saying that if it were up to me Shaun Alexander would never get in. His drop-off in production was quite acute once Steven Hutchinson left and within just a couple of years of winning the league M.V.P....
- Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:21 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Damon Allen vs. Marcus Allen
- Replies: 50
- Views: 54854
Re: Damon Allen vs. Marcus Allen
I'm guessing there was still some institutionalized bias against the kind of running QB that Allen was in the 1990s, and he wouldn't have been hailed as any kind of savior if he took an NFL offer, just another guy who wasn't guaranteed anything. I'd be willing to bet more of his NFL offers than not ...
- Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:43 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: My HOVG Watch List!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 24213
Re: My HOVG Watch List!
@Zero26, good take on Cloyce Box. What do you think of Elbie Nickel? I'd like his numbers for a tight end, but I don't think we're making that distinction for this era. Someone also mentioned Alyn Beals, who's a weird "all he does is catch touchdowns" case, and clearly highly dependent on...
- Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:33 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Urban Meyer finished after 13 games
- Replies: 16
- Views: 19540
Re: Urban Meyer finished after 13 games
Benching JRob lit the fire, kicking the kicker was the last straw. Bye Felicia. Definitely on the level of Petrino among the worst coaching hires ever; many saw it coming, but I thought Urban would be too much of a professional to let it be a complete disaster. Turns out he conducted himself far fro...