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- Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:29 am
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Rookie Rushing Record
- Replies: 5
- Views: 8335
Re: Rookie Rushing Record
Woods had a great season. Only played in 12 games with the Chargers, and one of those was only two carries. Great offensive line. Walt Sweeney had been traded, but Carl Mauck, Doug Wilkerson, Russ Washington, and Terry Owens remained. Great continuity on a mess of a team. Ironically, in Woods' "...
- Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:01 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: Passed the "Eye-Test" but...
- Replies: 17
- Views: 40478
Re: Passed the "Eye-Test" but...
"We" often discuss the credentials of Hall of Famers (and would-be Hall of Famers) as consisting of honors (Pro Bowl/All Pro/Team of a Decade) and "passing the eye-test" (did the player look like a HoFer to you on the field). While this last criterion is, of course, subjective i...
- Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:14 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: Jackie Smith
- Replies: 4
- Views: 13075
Re: Jackie Smith
Does he belong in Canton? At the time of his retirement, he ranked as the all-time receiver among tight ends with 480 receptions for 7,918 yards and 40 touchdowns so that’s saying something. Seems as though he’s in as a “long career/compiler” since honors are kind of iffy. (0/5/none) , Saw Jackie S...
- Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:57 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: Quite a backlog on safeties
- Replies: 9
- Views: 21593
Re: Quite a backlog on safeties
One problem I always find with Shell is that he backed Glen Edwards (himself a Pro bowler) his first four seasons in the NFL. If he had been a starter since his rookie year I think he would be enshrined already, I think he backed Wagner at first, who was the SS, then Wagner moved to FS and he was p...
- Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:07 am
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: Quite a backlog on safeties
- Replies: 9
- Views: 21593
Re: Quite a backlog on safeties
Thanks for posting. While there might be a backlog on safeties, I think the flipside is that all of the enshrinees are deserving. When Reed and Polamalu get in, it will really be a "best of the best" bunch. You don't have a headscratcher like John Lynch or David Fulcher sneaking in. Johnn...
- Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:55 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Draft A Player from the 60's, 70's & 80's
- Replies: 5
- Views: 8245
Re: Draft A Player from the 60's, 70's & 80's
70's LYNN SWANN I tire about people hating on the Hall of Fame credentials of the great Steelers receiver because he did not put up the type of gaudy numbers of modern receivers. Well earth to moon, Swann played the first four seasons of his career (1974-77) when the league only played 14 games and...
- Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:04 am
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: Some of the guys on bottom kind of light on "Honors"
- Replies: 22
- Views: 50678
Re: Some of the guys on bottom kind of light on "Honors"
Thanks for posting, John. Interesting to compare. I’ve always considered Dean and Dent mistakes, both pass rush first guys with weak honors (2/4/none). Dent’s in because he played forever and got a ton of career sacks, while Dean benefited from the mistaken idea that he was an elephant position pio...
- Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:34 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: He "Changed the game"
- Replies: 29
- Views: 36530
Re: He "Changed the game"
Because the big backs tend to have a short shelf life anyway, and to see a roughly 250 pound back dish out and absorb that kind of punishment for so long is amazing. Plus, the game has changed substantially since Bettis entered the NFL in the mid 90s.[/quote] We often hear about advances in medicine...
- Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:57 am
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Where would you place the Pats dynasty all time
- Replies: 26
- Views: 31235
Re: Where would you place the Pats dynasty all time
Popovich is arguably the best professional coach of the 21st century, although he is tied in number of rings with Phil Jackson. The Spurs are a lot like the Patriots. They used to be methodical, if dull (the 2003 and 2005 NBA Finals were not very pretty to watch) but they eventually expanded the of...
- Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:09 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: He "Changed the game"
- Replies: 29
- Views: 36530
Re: He "Changed the game"
Jerome Bettis had both the production and unique size, which inevitably resulted in the gold jacket. We'll never see another back at that size , fifth all time in yardage, and fourth all time in 100 yard games when they retire. Why? Because the big backs tend to have a short shelf life anyway, and ...