Professional Football Researchers Association Forum

IMO the 1983 Raiders are horribly underrated. Too much emphasis on statistics. From the standpoint of one contest the team could whip anyone, which is what happened in the SB. That said, the Redskins just shanked one in the water that day. It happens. The 1983 Raiders were a streaky team: they won ...

mwald wrote:Recently watched a few Raiders games from this era and had forgotten what an absolute beast Matt Millen was.

I think Rod Martin's actually even more underrated. Sure, most people know what he did in SB XV, but he was hardly a one-hit wonder.

BD Sullivan wrote:Al Davis' overconfidence probably didn't help, considering he was saying in '84, that he could see a dynasty developing, since "I don't know what it lacks."

For one thing, he believed in Marc Wilson much more and much longer than he should have.

As for '81, how do you think the Phins do in the 'Freezer Bowl'? Not any better than the Chargers did. I also don't think that the Seahawk win in 83 was a huge upset. Those Dolphin teams weren't all that talented, in my opinion. And, if they would have played the Steelers in 82 (in Round 2), they w...

It amazes me how many still think this is just about what happened in January. Like I said in the original thread, I believe this is really about two things - 1) The cover up is always worse than the crime 2) Previous history of cheating coupled with a "we're above the law" arrogance To me...

Great stuff, guys. If you will allow me to jump in, I just completed a four-part series looking at who was the best safety in the NFL in every year since 1950. Part IV (which links to the others) is here: http://www.footballperspective.com/the-safety-championship-belt-part-iv/ I've got Troy as the ...

I say 2-3 years and he goes in. He also had two SB rings, and at his peak (which was short) truly was a game changer. I can think of about a half dozen games where Polomalu sealed a victory with a late interception or turned a late pick six to turn a loss into a win. At his peak he was arguably the...

JuggernautJ wrote:I was thinking Alworth for WR but then... could there be a more textbook answer than Jerry Rice?

My thought, as well.

Couple more - Emmitt Smith and Marvin Harrison

My initial thought is that he'll get in after a few years wait, but I'm saying that on the day his retirement was announced. How much will memories of him fade outside of 49ers circles by the time he becomes HoF eligible? We know how much traction players like Easley and Sharpe have gotten. To get i...

MatthewToy wrote:I think that Ben Roethlisberger guy is a little better than Bubby Freaking Brister.

And while Merrill Hoge was a fine back, I don't think anyone would say he was as talented as Le'Veon Bell. I will say that as great as Antonio Brown is, a healthy Louis Lipps wasn't too far off.