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by JameisLoseston
Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:42 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
Replies: 26
Views: 36115

Re: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists

It seems like the committee has just forgotten about Henry Ellard. Has he ever even made the semis cut?
by JameisLoseston
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:03 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
Replies: 26
Views: 36115

Re: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists

My picks:

R Barber
D Ware
T Holt
Z Thomas
J Allen

Let Hester wait a few years. A lot of these receivers like Ward and Boldin seem like textbook HOVG to me.
by JameisLoseston
Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:53 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completeness
Replies: 58
Views: 65064

Re: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completene

If you want to figure normalized passer ratings for Friedman, I would not include anything from "incomplete" games. In Friedman's case, I think Neft has "complete" stats for 42 of 61 games (that's for 1927-31, the years when the league wasn't counting), so that's more than two-t...
by JameisLoseston
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:33 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completeness
Replies: 58
Views: 65064

Re: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completene

Just started compiling some league stats for the Red Dunn NPR calculations, and so far noticed one major anomaly: the rate stats for 1924 in particular, Dunn's rookie year, are drastically biased in a way that suggests heavy incompleteness, particularly in the statistic of, well, incompletions. I ca...
by JameisLoseston
Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:19 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Ted Ginn Jr and Devin Hester
Replies: 15
Views: 30008

Re: Ted Ginn Jr and Devin Hester

Having grown up with Ted Ginn annually inhabiting my waiver wires, I just can't bring myself to see him as anything but a journeyman. This is an interesting case, though; the raw stats do look way better than I would expect. I wonder if this is how many older members here feel about players I often ...
by JameisLoseston
Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:37 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
Replies: 26
Views: 36115

Re: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists

Not an extremely strong class. I can't imagine an argument for Barber not getting in now. Jared Allen or Ware more likely to get in first ballot?
by JameisLoseston
Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:55 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completeness
Replies: 58
Views: 65064

Re: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completene

The Packers had a better team than the Giants, with "inner circle" Hall of Famers Mike Michalske and Cal Hubbard in the line -- plus Dilweg, who should have been in years ago -- and a backfield of Blood, Lewellen, Dunn and Bo Molenda. I think all of those seven guys were better than almos...
by JameisLoseston
Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:10 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completeness
Replies: 58
Views: 65064

Re: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completene

I think that's a misinterpretation. For one thing, Lewellen's 1929 and 1930 passing stats (as compiled by David Neft) seem quite good for the era. And even if they were terrible, when you say he "hurt the team by continuing to throw" it sounds like it was his choice -- like he was a baske...
by JameisLoseston
Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:27 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Canton Roster w/ Numbers 1920
Replies: 5
Views: 7436

Re: Canton Roster w/ Numbers 1920

I suppose this is at least something. http://jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1920-can
by JameisLoseston
Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:25 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Todd Gurley and Le'veon Bell
Replies: 24
Views: 38666

Re: Todd Gurley and Le'veon Bell

What would we need Julian Edelman for with AB back and healthy? I don't think he wants to play for us anyways.