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- Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:42 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
- Replies: 26
- Views: 36115
Re: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
It seems like the committee has just forgotten about Henry Ellard. Has he ever even made the semis cut?
- Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:03 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
- Replies: 26
- Views: 36115
Re: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
My picks:
R Barber
D Ware
T Holt
Z Thomas
J Allen
Let Hester wait a few years. A lot of these receivers like Ward and Boldin seem like textbook HOVG to me.
R Barber
D Ware
T Holt
Z Thomas
J Allen
Let Hester wait a few years. A lot of these receivers like Ward and Boldin seem like textbook HOVG to me.
- Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:53 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completeness
- Replies: 58
- Views: 65064
Re: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completene
If you want to figure normalized passer ratings for Friedman, I would not include anything from "incomplete" games. In Friedman's case, I think Neft has "complete" stats for 42 of 61 games (that's for 1927-31, the years when the league wasn't counting), so that's more than two-t...
- Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:33 am
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completeness
- Replies: 58
- Views: 65064
Re: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completene
Just started compiling some league stats for the Red Dunn NPR calculations, and so far noticed one major anomaly: the rate stats for 1924 in particular, Dunn's rookie year, are drastically biased in a way that suggests heavy incompleteness, particularly in the statistic of, well, incompletions. I ca...
- Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:19 am
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Ted Ginn Jr and Devin Hester
- Replies: 15
- Views: 30008
Re: Ted Ginn Jr and Devin Hester
Having grown up with Ted Ginn annually inhabiting my waiver wires, I just can't bring myself to see him as anything but a journeyman. This is an interesting case, though; the raw stats do look way better than I would expect. I wonder if this is how many older members here feel about players I often ...
- Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:37 pm
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
- Replies: 26
- Views: 36115
Re: 2022 HoF Semi-Finalists
Not an extremely strong class. I can't imagine an argument for Barber not getting in now. Jared Allen or Ware more likely to get in first ballot?
- Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:55 pm
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completeness
- Replies: 58
- Views: 65064
Re: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completene
The Packers had a better team than the Giants, with "inner circle" Hall of Famers Mike Michalske and Cal Hubbard in the line -- plus Dilweg, who should have been in years ago -- and a backfield of Blood, Lewellen, Dunn and Bo Molenda. I think all of those seven guys were better than almos...
- Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:10 am
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completeness
- Replies: 58
- Views: 65064
Re: Benny Friedman NPR, and a word on statistical completene
I think that's a misinterpretation. For one thing, Lewellen's 1929 and 1930 passing stats (as compiled by David Neft) seem quite good for the era. And even if they were terrible, when you say he "hurt the team by continuing to throw" it sounds like it was his choice -- like he was a baske...
- Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:27 am
- Forum: Football Talk
- Topic: Canton Roster w/ Numbers 1920
- Replies: 5
- Views: 7436
Re: Canton Roster w/ Numbers 1920
I suppose this is at least something. http://jt-sw.com/football/pro/stats.nsf/Annual/1920-can
- Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:25 am
- Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
- Topic: Todd Gurley and Le'veon Bell
- Replies: 24
- Views: 38666
Re: Todd Gurley and Le'veon Bell
What would we need Julian Edelman for with AB back and healthy? I don't think he wants to play for us anyways.