Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Postby RyanChristiansen » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:58 pm

On Good Morning Football on NFL Network Peter Schrager said Miami’s Haack to Sanders punter-to-placekicker TD pass was a first.

I found another. There’s probably more.

Tom Yewcic and Gino Cappelletti

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Re: Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Postby RRMarshall » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:21 pm

Tom Yewcic was also the Pats back up QB during that era. Babe Parilli was always getting banged up so he played quite a bit. I'm afraid he was playing at QB when this TD pass occurred, and Gino was also one of the Pats regular WRs at that time.
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Re: Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Postby RyanChristiansen » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:26 pm

RRMarshall wrote:Tom Yewcic was also the Pats back up QB during that era. Babe Parilli was always getting banged up so he played quite a bit. I'm afraid he was playing at QB when this TD pass occurred, and Gino was also one of the Pats regular WRs at that time.


In my opinion, I’m not so sure that’s a disqualification. They had smaller rosters back then and no room for specialists.

It wasn’t a fake punt by Miami. Haack was a QB and Sanders was an eligible receiver on the Miami play.
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Re: Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Postby Rupert Patrick » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:44 pm

RRMarshall wrote:Tom Yewcic was also the Pats back up QB during that era. Babe Parilli was always getting banged up so he played quite a bit. I'm afraid he was playing at QB when this TD pass occurred, and Gino was also one of the Pats regular WRs at that time.


His son Tom Yewcic, Jr. was the second string QB (to Matt Cavanaugh) on the national champion 1976 Pitt Panthers team.

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Re: Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Postby JameisLoseston » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:36 am

RyanChristiansen wrote:
RRMarshall wrote:Tom Yewcic was also the Pats back up QB during that era. Babe Parilli was always getting banged up so he played quite a bit. I'm afraid he was playing at QB when this TD pass occurred, and Gino was also one of the Pats regular WRs at that time.


In my opinion, I’m not so sure that’s a disqualification. They had smaller rosters back then and no room for specialists.

It wasn’t a fake punt by Miami. Haack was a QB and Sanders was an eligible receiver on the Miami play.


It is. The entire point of this fact was to point out that a guy who absolutely cannot be expected to throw a TD threw a TD to a guy who absolutely cannot be expected to catch a TD.
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Re: Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Postby RyanChristiansen » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:27 pm

JameisLoseston wrote:The entire point of this fact was to point out that a guy who absolutely cannot be expected to throw a TD threw a TD to a guy who absolutely cannot be expected to catch a TD.


Absolutely? Wow.
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Re: Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Postby Teo » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:06 pm

According to PFR, the last placekicker before the past Sunday to score a TD was Arizona's Jay Feely in 2010. The Cowboys' Tim Seder scored two TDs in consecutive seasons in 2000-2001, and the Browns' Phil Dawson also scored a TD in 1999. All of those TDs were rushing, but I remember well Dawson's TD and the holder was punter Chris Gardocki, who pitched the ball to Dawson.
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Re: Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Postby conace21 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:18 pm

RyanChristiansen wrote:
RRMarshall wrote:Tom Yewcic was also the Pats back up QB during that era. Babe Parilli was always getting banged up so he played quite a bit. I'm afraid he was playing at QB when this TD pass occurred, and Gino was also one of the Pats regular WRs at that time.


In my opinion, I’m not so sure that’s a disqualification. They had smaller rosters back then and no room for specialists.

It wasn’t a fake punt by Miami. Haack was a QB and Sanders was an eligible receiver on the Miami play.

I'd say the fact that both players started the game on offense should be a pretty good reason to be a disqualification.
The Miami play was certainly not a fake punt. You rarely see those from the opponent's two yard line.
It wasn't a fake field goal in the sense that the play started out appearing to be a field goal before the pass, but it was a trick play where the field goal team went out in field goal formation before changing into a most unorthodox formation.

I'm surprised that the only kicker in recent memory to catch a touchdown pass was Jim Turner. Jim O'Brien had a couple TD catches, but he was a receiver as well as a kicker.
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Re: Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Postby JameisLoseston » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:09 pm

I'd categorize it as a fake FG. Haack would have been holder.
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Re: Punter-to-placekicker TD passes

Postby rhickok1109 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:43 am

conace21 wrote:
RyanChristiansen wrote:
RRMarshall wrote:Tom Yewcic was also the Pats back up QB during that era. Babe Parilli was always getting banged up so he played quite a bit. I'm afraid he was playing at QB when this TD pass occurred, and Gino was also one of the Pats regular WRs at that time.


In my opinion, I’m not so sure that’s a disqualification. They had smaller rosters back then and no room for specialists.

It wasn’t a fake punt by Miami. Haack was a QB and Sanders was an eligible receiver on the Miami play.

I'd say the fact that both players started the game on offense should be a pretty good reason to be a disqualification.
The Miami play was certainly not a fake punt. You rarely see those from the opponent's two yard line.
It wasn't a fake field goal in the sense that the play started out appearing to be a field goal before the pass, but it was a trick play where the field goal team went out in field goal formation before changing into a most unorthodox formation.

I'm surprised that the only kicker in recent memory to catch a touchdown pass was Jim Turner. Jim O'Brien had a couple TD catches, but he was a receiver as well as a kicker.

Rather peripheral to the main thread, but I wonder if any kicker beside Chester Marcol has ever turned a block FG into a TD?
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