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I've always used Charley.

Of course, nfl.com and PFR still have Erny Pinckert as Ernie.

Well, apparently everything pre-2003 is what is now gone - based on the pages for Tom Brady and Emmitt Smith. And even then are wrong dates for games from last ten years.

As of today, all the historical game log data (as incomplete as it was) is completely gone from www.nfl.com.

Idiots.

It's because no obituary has been published for him by a newspaper or funeral home. Same thing goes for Mike Giddings who apparently died on July 27th.

Dess didn't get a rushing attempt because of the Tarkenton "dances around a bit." Plunkett probably should have a sack for 8 yards and Neville should have no rushing stats at all. But you have to realize there all kinds of errors in the official stats in the days before the stats were digi...

And wasn't the Hall of Fame going to have an app so you look at all the files they had scanned???

https://www.esb.com/blog/evolution-spor ... as-experts

The article is dull and unrevealing "corporate hype" but the photo is what I find interesting - especially the container on the right marked "A.F.L. PxPs 1960-1963."

Yes, cool but still maddening. No punting game logs for Sammy Baugh, etc.

And they (NFL/Elias) can't tell the difference between Dick Nesbitt and Dave Nisbet for the Cardinals in 1933

https://www.profootballarchives.com/nfl ... fl065.html

https://www.profootballarchives.com/nfl ... fl067.html

Well, his father or grandfather is in the Hall of Fame, honored by the whole league, not just a single team. And for what? Uh, he owned a team for 15 years or so, and they weren't good, but ... well, did I mention that he owned a team? Bidwell Sr. was probably the worst "contributor" elec...