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by Retro Rider
Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:28 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: SB matchups you're glad we didn't get
Replies: 24
Views: 36122

Re: SB matchups you're glad we didn't get

Broncos vs. Redskins Super Bowl XXVI. That would have been another disaster for Denver.
by Retro Rider
Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:02 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: The Pressure on Place Kickers
Replies: 34
Views: 18052

Re: The Pressure on Place Kickers

I am surprised that this factoid is so obscure, considering Fraser predated the Gogolak's. I found a photo of Fraser soccer-styling a kickoff in 1962; but I did not know he did this until you mentioned it just now. Even in my Barely Audible book which details the AFL Denver Broncos and has a profil...
by Retro Rider
Mon May 29, 2023 8:46 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere
Replies: 12
Views: 4305

Re: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere

the PFWA-NY's Kapp in 69 and Alworth in 65, shows a bit of a different take. Those type of selections make things interesting. In addition to Kapp's N.Y. Chapter award and Detroit News POY honor, I have him down for these: *1969 NFL Player of the Year* Touchdown Club of Utica, NY Pro Football Guide...
by Retro Rider
Mon May 29, 2023 7:59 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere
Replies: 12
Views: 4305

Re: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere

I stand corrected. It's been a long time since I looked and forgot - when they announced the PFWA All-Pro team they named Starr MVP, Roland ROY and Landry Coach. If I'd have just looked at the spreadsheet, I'd have known . . . so both the NY chapter and the PFWA as a whole had awards. So I need to ...
by Retro Rider
Mon May 29, 2023 7:38 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere
Replies: 12
Views: 4305

Re: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere

That's interesting, thanks for checking. At this point I'm leaning toward N.Y. Chapter award only. Also, if they want to get technical---didn't become MVP until 1969. Was POY before that, but it is my view that the terms were interchangeable then. I don't think UPI was NOT choosing the MVP by desig...
by Retro Rider
Mon May 29, 2023 6:55 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere
Replies: 12
Views: 4305

Re: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere

1. When the winners were announced in 1966 it was "by the New York Chapter of the Pro Football Writers' Association." 2. If they have information that says it was by the PFWA as a whole, I am not aware of it. It's possible they have internal files that show it was an association-wide awar...
by Retro Rider
Mon May 29, 2023 5:33 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere
Replies: 12
Views: 4305

Re: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere

Question: Was Bart Starr's 1966 PFWA MVP selection a N.Y. Chapter award only or was it a vote of the full membership? The PFWA website lists Starr as their first MVP winner in 1966 (none of the N.Y. Chapter award winners are credited): https://www.profootballwriters.org/on-field-awards/pfwa-nfl-most...
by Retro Rider
Sun May 28, 2023 9:31 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere
Replies: 12
Views: 4305

Re: Awards from Clubs added - for anyone intere

The hits keep coming, thanks John. There's alot there to chew on, particularly the Miami TD Club POY awards; 1969 Calvin Hill - NFL Rookie of the Year plus POY over Roman Gabriel 1972 Larry Csonka - His only regular season POY award (that I know of) ... Probably the only accolade that Larry Brown di...
by Retro Rider
Sun May 28, 2023 12:12 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Retro Rider's questions about MVPs led to Arthur Daley Award
Replies: 24
Views: 8329

Re: Retro Rider's questions about MVPs led to Arthur Daley A

JohnTurney wrote: Bradshaw also won Miami Touchdown Club Award.
Thanks for that. I've never seen a list of Miami TD winners (Namath in '68 where he made his famous guarantee). I'll have to re-check your Modern Years All- Pro book. Blanda's 1970 trophy was auctioned off a few years ago.
by Retro Rider
Sun May 28, 2023 11:50 am
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: Retro Rider's questions about MVPs led to Arthur Daley Award
Replies: 24
Views: 8329

Re: Retro Rider's questions about MVPs led to Arthur Daley A

These minor awards are interesting. I first took notice when going through old media guides. They would mention the postseason honors of a player and if a guy didn't get many - maybe one from a small club I'd want the whole list and go down that rabbit hole on microfilm. With the Long Island club t...