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by JohnTurney
Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:10 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: More fodder. . .
Replies: 24
Views: 22125

Re: More fodder. . .

There is going to come a point where all these rules they are putting in place to keep players from getting injured are going to blow up in their face and fans as a whole will begin to demand that more hitting gets put back into the game again. I really do think one of the main reasons why the tv r...
by JohnTurney
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:51 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Jason Kelce
Replies: 10
Views: 16254

Re: Jason Kelce

sluggermatt15 wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:36 pm First ballot or not I could care less. Kelce will be in Canton.
Aaron Donald retiring could hurt his first-ballot chances -- but also, with Donald's 8 AP and Kelce close, you can look at it that way -- -the comparison could help ...

will be interesting to see for the Class of 2029
by JohnTurney
Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:46 am
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Eye Test for Two revelation
Replies: 16
Views: 10516

Re: Eye Test for Two revelation

Looking forward to seeing who those 1920s MVPs are. It makes for fun reading. Also the many chapters has evaluations plus a mini-bio. There ate lots of great authors on that era, Mickey Herskowitz, Richard Whittingham, John Maxymuk, Jim Campbell, Bob Gill, Ken Crippen, T.J. Troup, Dan Daley and man...
by JohnTurney
Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:34 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Eye Test for Two revelation
Replies: 16
Views: 10516

Re: Eye Test for Two revelation

what Chris Willis has posted Speaking of Chirs Willis his new book is released tomorrow ... an can be ordered now -- "The NFL's 60-Minute Men: All-Time Greats of the Two-Way Player Era, 1920-1945," I like it a lot ... covera the top players of that era and he gives his rankings and opinio...
by JohnTurney
Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:56 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Eye Test for Two revelation
Replies: 16
Views: 10516

Re: Eye Test for Two revelation

Honestly, Slater wasn't a slam dunk to me for HOF, for HOVG, sure - great choice. But he isn't mentioned in this article for example: https://profootballresearchers.com/archives/Website_Files/Coffin_Corner/07-05-233.pdf . Dilweg, Emerson, Lewellen and Wistert were my top choices among the finalists...
by JohnTurney
Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:46 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Eye Test for Two revelation
Replies: 16
Views: 10516

Re: Eye Test for Two revelation

Your not going to believe what I found out On Episode 93 of the Eye Test for Two Bill Polian says he Bill Belichick Ozzie Newsome and Ron Wolf all members of the Blue Ribbon Panel that elected the Centennial Class stupidest film of the pre 60s players and rated theme and concluded that all the play...
by JohnTurney
Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:39 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Jason Kelce
Replies: 10
Views: 16254

Re: Jason Kelce

of the ones you have listed in yellow john how many of them have legit hof cases Honestly don't know. I think "cases" is on thing. "Legit cases?" maybe only Kelce ... the way things have gone. Seems like 2-3 All-Pros even with a lot of Pro Bowls doesn't get you there -- to Canton.
by JohnTurney
Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:23 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Fletcher Cox, just the numbers
Replies: 1
Views: 2219

Fletcher Cox, just the numbers

no grades, pressures, double teams, "eye-test" someone asked about HOF --- Kevin Williams cannot get any notice ... IMO, throwing in eye test, Cox was better than some of these guys ... a couple of them were 3-techs for the most part. Cox and Suh and Williams were more than just rushers/pe...
by JohnTurney
Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:35 pm
Forum: Football Talk
Topic: punting career of Bill Bradley
Replies: 4
Views: 9451

Re: punting career of Bill Bradley

I'm watching old GOTW highlights, and I am seeing various punts by Bill Bradley for the first time. Some of his punts are incredible....the highest, weirdest-spinning punts I've ever seen. But looking at his career, he was very inconsistent from year to year and didn't even punt in some years. Does...
by JohnTurney
Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:05 pm
Forum: HOF and HOVG Talk
Topic: Jason Kelce
Replies: 10
Views: 16254

Re: Jason Kelce

Canton First Ballot, or not? I think he will. I don't think past precedent means it is a fait accompli that he won't be, i.e. Mike Webster wasn't so Kelce won't and so on. Voters will see his All-Pros, his body of work in terms of being about to get out and block (eye test) plus his value in changi...