Professional Football Researchers Association Forum

Bryan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 9:36 pm NFL stats are NFL stats.

Then what about the (1960-69) AFL?

You raise some valid points, Ryan.
And I am not arguing against them, per se.

I am all in favor of a more nuanced understanding of history.
I don't know that there's a truly satisfactory solution to this issue.

Crazy times we live in. Crazier than a time when the color of your skin determined whether you could play in the major leagues or not? Papa, don't preach. (IMO) It isn't "preaching" to bring up the inequities of the past. As a historical organization these are things that should be includ...

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Of course, Vince's Packers did "Threepeat... it's just that one of their "Petes" was before the Super Bowl existed. I can still hear Pat Summerall saying "There will be no threepeate..." And I can still see Roger Craig fumbling that football near the end of the game. Arg. A ...